Seriously....occupy elsewhere!

[Diztrbd1]

I guess this is mainly my rant about these idiots. Almost made this a poll just to see where people stand on this. But I was interested to see some other mindsets on this. Personally, I had no problems with Occupy Vancouver at first. However, they are giving new meaning to the term " give 'em an inch and they take a mile". Thought for sure it was over after the overdose & then a death the other day, guess it isn't over.
I was watching the morning news and seen that the Firefighters were putting out a fire they started in a barrel. Which is a big fire hazard(and I'm quite sure...illegal) due to how they have turned the area into a big garbage dump from what I have seen. What really got to me was how the idiots were chanting "No respect" at the firemen. Seriously??? What hypocrites they are!! I was raised believing you have to earn respect or atleast show some to get some. Apparently they were raised with a different outlook on the word. They were allowed to take up residency at the Art Gallery (big eyesore imo), supplied free electricity, water and whatever else we are giving them, all at the taxpayers expense. From my understanding the bill is well over $100.000 now, personally I'd rather seen that money go to the cancer society or something of the sort. They want to protest, then they should be the ones paying for it! They have been able to do what they damn well please for a month now and have the nerve to chant "no respect".
I don't know how everyone else feels but I am seriously tired of their bs! Their message, IMO, no longer stands strong as they are the ones who have "no respect" what-so -ever in return. That place looks more like a campground for crackheads than it does a peaceful protest. The city tries to enforce a bylaw and they say we don't recognize those laws?? Seriously?? They obviously think they are above the law now, because they know the city is trying to resolve it peacefully.
I think it's high time for the city to grow a pair and go move their dis-respecting, non-law abiding asses out of the Art Gallery, so we can get on with cleaning up the dump they most likely will be leaving behind and can get on with the Xmas stuff. Shame they have to re-route the parade because of this. But it just shows how the city has to revolve around their actions, when by all rights, they shouldn't have to. I believe they think they are untouchable due to the fear still lingering from the Stanley cup riots keeping the city from removing them with force ,unlike other countries. I'm not a violent person but honestly I think it time they move on, one way or the other. Anyway that's just my 2 cents. What is yours? agree, disagree or agree to disagree , they are all welcome. But please keep it civil cause, I would like to think, we are all friends here.

[jobber604]

Watch Out: Vampires loose near the Vancouver Art Gallery

[TomC]

Good cause, poor organization and leadership. With proper behaviour they could have gained a lot of public support.

[effox]

Good cause, poor organization and leadership. With proper behaviour they could have gained a lot of public support.

Agreed Tom.

Cheers,
Chris

[Diztrbd1]

lol Ming


Tom, I totally agree

[jobber604]

Agreed Tom.

Cheers,
Chris

Agree with Tom and Chris. Lacks the organisation and behavioural controls. I'm seeing it now as more a squeegeeing camp ;P.
I was all with it at the beginning but the momentum has definitely gone. Like setting up a new fish tank..all the hype and interest...but after about a 5 weeks, neglect and lack of maintenance sets in which results in algae bloom and vampire bites.

[SeaHorse_Fanatic]

Maybe spend some of their money on housing instead of drugs (if the 2 ODs at these Occupy protests over the weekend are any indication).

Yup, raised with different values than we were.

Would like to see a nice localized snowstorm and hailstorm, say in the Occupied zones, and see how long it takes them to take off.

Some are real activists. Unfortunately, they seem to be outnumbered by the crackheads & druggies who seem to be very visible on the media.

[budahrox]

Shoulda stopped it before it started. Protesting is one thing, camping another. Just more bleeding heart crap. Pack 'em up, move 'em out & lock up anyone standing in the way.

[architeuthis]

Hands up everyone who has a job!
No one?
That's what I thought.

It started out as a good idea, but has been taken over by a completely different group of people.

[Elle]

This is Vancouver...what do you expect? It's all about political correctness and appearances, even when you're a supposed protestor. I saw a clip where they actually asked a guy near the art gallery what their specific goals are in this protest and what they would like to see happen. He didn't have a clue, and went on about how "we're all individuals here". Uh-huh. Well, buddy, if YOU can't articulate the reason you're here, why should anyone else support you?

It's too bad that the Occupy Vancouver protest has been hijacked by the usual Vancouver poverty pimps, crackheads and "professional anarchists". They've managed to destroy what could have been a very successful way to highlight major issues that all of us at all levels of society need to resolve. I'm in full sympathy with the *global* aims of the OWS movement. They are highlighting the desperate need for financial reforms and the danger posed by the widening gap between rich and poor in Western society. If you think things are bad here, check out the 99% Tumlbr blog: We Are the 99 Percent. How much of your society can you force to desperation and ignore before things fall to pieces?

To be successful, this movement needs clearly articulated goals and leaders who command respect (as in not acting like chimps on crack). They may think that it's noble to pretend that they are all "speshul little individual snowflakes" just like mommy told them, but if they want to succeed, they need to put out a plan that Joe Lunchbox can related to. I have a few suggestions, and none of them involve camping at the art gallery. March there daily? Sure! Stand there all day every day, tons of marches happen there and the city doesn't mind. But as soon as your dumb ass actions become the issue rather than communicating what you stand for, well, you blow any support you had. I liken this protest now to Critical Mass, where nobody cares WHY they ride, which was originally to promote cycling. Nope, now it's all about conflict, and they've done more harm than good to their cause.

These are some things that I'd like to see the Occupy folks calling for, instead of declaring themselves an "autonomous zone" (oh, puh-leeze) where they can do what they like.

1) A fractional percentage Robin Hood tax (like the proposed Tobin tax) on the financial sector.
2) Major bank reforms, including separating investment banking from regular banking. No bank should have enough financial clout to bring down the economy via their own stupidity.
3) Immediately and fully enforcing existing legislation on the financial sector, including prosecutions for fraud and theft on executives who accepted bailouts
4) Reform the tax system so your CEOs who are earning tens of millions are actually taxed at the appropriate level rather than being able to hide their income to evade taxes.