Got a Beautiful Pair of German Gold Ram Pair at PJ's Pets

[waynet]

I got a beautiful pair of German Gold Ram Pair from PJ's Pets today. I just could not resist not getting them. They are even better priced than from private dealers. $6/fish.



Thanks for watching.

[BelieveInBlue]

Very nice fish, but they're just gold rams; there's no such thing as a german gold ram.

[Morainy]

They look beautiful against the dark substrate.

[Diztrbd1]

Very nice fish, but they're just gold rams; there's no such thing as a german gold ram.

I'm no expert, but I believe that it's not a safe bet to say "there is no such thing". To begin with, Gold ,Blue & Electric Blue are all a strains from the Mikrogeophagus ramirezi species of Ram cichlids. The German Blue Rams are actually a strong breeding strain of Blue Rams that were hormone treated for stronger coloration. They came from German breeders (not German waterways), brought to the hobby in the 80's. The name stuck as it distinguished them from the rest. But now the majority of blue rams you find (wild or not), are titled "German". IMO it is safe to say they could very well be "German" gold rams going by all that. If you go to Canadian Aquatics website you will see they have Holland Rams, which are guess what? Yep same deal but bred in Holland. The name just wasn't as catchy enough back then apparently lol With all that said.....you call your Blue Rams "German", how do you know for sure they are indeed "German" to call them that?
From my past research, the whole family originates from S.American waters, hence why they are grouped as S. American dwarf cichlids & not German dwarf cichlids. As for the Gold Ram, it is a Xanthochromism strain of Mikrogeophagus ramirezi. Very possible it could be German bred, sounds good ...go with it lol
Anyway, the Rams look great Wayne, the darker substrate does compliment their color nicely. Great price as well.

[BelieveInBlue]

I'm no expert, but I believe that it's not a safe bet to say "there is no such thing". To begin with, Gold ,Blue & Electric Blue are all a strains from the Mikrogeophagus ramirezi species of Ram cichlids. The German Blue Rams are actually a strong breeding strain of Blue Rams that were hormone treated for stronger coloration. They came from German breeders (not German waterways), brought to the hobby in the 80's. The name stuck as it distinguished them from the rest. But now the majority of blue rams you find (wild or not), are titled "German". IMO it is safe to say they could very well be "German" gold rams going by all that. If you go to Canadian Aquatics website you will see they have Holland Rams, which are guess what? Yep same deal but bred in Holland. The name just wasn't as catchy enough back then apparently lol With all that said.....you call your Blue Rams "German", how do you know for sure they are indeed "German" to call them that?
From my past research, the whole family originates from S.American waters, hence why they are grouped as S. American dwarf cichlids & not German dwarf cichlids. As for the Gold Ram, it is a Xanthochromism strain of Mikrogeophagus ramirezi. Very possible it could be German bred, sounds good ...go with it lol
Anyway, the Rams look great Wayne, the darker substrate does compliment their color nicely. Great price as well.

I'm pretty sure only the blue ram originated from SA; the rest were all captive bred strains. But, since they are all different strains of the same fish, they are all considered SA, which makes sense since they're the same fish, just different colours. As for the german/not german thing, I use german to describe the strain, not the origin, although I suppose that, technically, you're correct.

[Diztrbd1]

lol was just giving you a hard time Ray You are probably correct in that only the Blue Rams originated in S.A. & the strains came from labs, mostly in Asia from what I have read. But it could have been a German lab too lol

[waynet]

Thanks for the positive comments about my German Gold RAMS. They are so active and eating right away once I put them in my tank. They are also very peaceful fish. I put them in my 10g Furcata Rainbow tank and they don't attack the Furcata Rainbow at all. They are not only yellow but their fins have sparkled bluish purple color as well. It is beautiful fish.

I think I like them more than German Blue Rams.

[hlee72ca]

Wayne, thank you for sharing, I love to watch your videos. The german gold rams look very nice, the yellow from the Furcatas match the colour of the Rams! Keep your videos coming!

[Fansons]

BGA! Good luck with that, I hope it's not spreading in your tank...

[waynet]

Do you mean baby GGR?

If any, they will be eaten by the Furcata rainbow.

BGA! Good luck with that, I hope it's not spreading in your tank...