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    When i first hit the planted tank scene i got to know a good person of mine his name is George Farmer (www.ukaps.org), he's a article writer for PFK. He's provided some excellent articles that i think you all should take a read over. I give full credit to george and fishforums.net for this article as in no way did i edit, write, or take any credit for it. Hope you enjoy it, as i've read it a million times in my life and have taken alot away from it in my experiences.

    Carbon Dioxide

    Almost half of the physical make-up of a plant is carbon. The vast majority of submerged aquarium plants absorb this carbon through carbon dioxide (CO2) dissolved in the water. There are exceptions i.e. Vallisneria species, that absorb bicarbonates from dissolved minerals in the water, such species therefore thrive in harder water. However, ALL aquarium plants will benefit greatly from adding CO2 to the water.

    For those wishing to keep a heavily planted tank, full of lush growth with little or no algae then I consider CO2 addition to be essential. CO2 injection is probably the biggest advance this hobby has ever seen, ranking alongside fluorescent lighting and the recent EI principles.

    Why have CO2?

    Under low light conditions (generally less than 2 Watts per Gallon) there is normally enough CO2 for the plant to grow successfully without CO2 addition - if a little slowly. If the light levels are increased to over 2 WPG then the plants will grow well for a period until they consume the little CO2 (normal levels are around 4 ppm) that is available in the tank. The plants? growth is then limited by a lack of CO2. The plants will stop growing, inevitably resulting in an algae bloom. Algae?s biggest friend is a tank where there is an abundance of light and little plant growth. It therefore becomes necessary to increase CO2 levels within the aquarium. CO2 addition (injection) is therefore recommended with light levels of 2 WPG or over.

    Methods of Injection

    Yeast-Based

    The cheapest and a popular way is to DIY. There are many articles available on the Internet so I will not go into too much detail. DIY generally uses an old plastic fizzy drinks bottle with tubing. The bottle is filled with a mixture of sugar, yeast, bi-carbonate of soda and water. The fermentation of the yeast produces CO2. The CO2 goes through the tubing that is normally attached to a diffuser or filter inlet within the tank. The CO2 must be diffused effectively in the water, it cannot just be allowed to escape from the tube directly into the water otherwise the CO2 bubble will just ascend rapidly to the surface and escape into the air.

    There are manufactured CO2 systems that work using the same yeast/sugar principles. These are obviously more expensive but have the advantage of being easier to set up and come complete with an effective diffuser. The Nutrafin Natural Plant System is a good example. The manufacturer?s supplied sachets are simply yeast and bi-carbonate of soda. It is worth noting that bi-carb is unnecessary with water that has a GH of 6 or above and KH 4 or above.

    One tip is to use more than one unit (DIY or otherwise) to achieve a more stable CO2. This is achieved simply by swapping the mixtures alternately therefore leading to the CO2 level
    ?peaks and troughs? becoming more evenly spread.

    Pressurized Cylinder

    Another more expensive method is the pressurized cylinder. A CO2 filled metal refillable or plastic disposable cylinder is connected to a pressure regulator. This brings down the pressure to usable levels and can be adjusted to achieve the desired flow rate using a needle valve. The CO2 hose is usually connected to a safety check-valve, then possibly to a bubble counter. The CO2 flows finally to a diffuser or reactor. Although initially expensive, these will provide a constant CO2 flow for many months (depending on tank size etc.) They can also be fitted with a night-time shut-off solenoid that is connected to the lights thus saving CO2. This has the additional advantage of reducing pH swings (discussed later). For the ultimate in control a pH controller can be fitted, this will continue to inject CO2 until the pH drops to a preset level. A solenoid will then shut-off the CO2 supply until the pH has risen to the preset level. This provides a very stable pH, ideal for fish and plants. One must be very careful in monitoring the pH sensor (probe), if it accidentally leaves the water then the CO2 may continue to pump away indefinitely possibly killing all the fish.

    Yeast-based versus Pressurized

    Yeast-based

    Advantages Cheap, ideal for smaller tanks, easy to set up, little chance of overdosing CO2

    Disadvantages Unstable CO2 levels compared with pressurized, high maintenance (changing mixtures, cleaning etc.), little control over CO2 output, not ideal for larger tanks


    Pressurized

    Advantages Very stable CO2 (particularly with solenoid/pH controller), easily controllable, low maintenance (once set-up will last months generally), ideal for all sizes of aquarium

    Disadvantages Expensive initially, possibility of overdosing CO2


    Carbon Dioxide Levels and other Water Parameters

    Recommended levels of CO2 are 20 to 35ppm. It is important that these levels remain fairly constant, as fluctuating levels are known to cause algae. Higher levels are sometimes used to fight off algae ? it is known that levels higher than 40ppm can block the enzyme production in the algae cells. However one must pay attention to the behaviour of the fish as levels higher than 35ppm are known to cause health issues.

    One of the consequences of injecting CO2 into water is that it produces carbonic acid. This acid will reduce pH so it is important that the water has sufficient buffering capacity (Carbonate Hardness or KH). Ideally the water should have a KH of at least 2 degrees or 40ppm.

    Measuring CO2 levels is straightforward using accurate pH and KH test kits and reading off the result on a pH / KH / CO2 table. There are many available on the Internet (see my signature). Note that you cannot alter your CO2 levels by simply changing other water parameters. I have known people to use pH buffers with the belief that the lower pH will increase CO2 levels. This seems to make sense if you look at a CO2 table but pH buffers replace KH therefore rendering the reading as useless. pH and KH are intrinsically linked ? it is this fundamental law that allows us to measure CO2.

    Another misunderstanding is that low KH results in higher pH swings. This is not true ? see for yourself using a CO2 table, note the actual swing size is identical given the same CO2 levels for any pH/KH. The only issue with low KH is that it may result in a pH crash, however I know of successful planted aquarists (zig for one) that run with KH 1.5 with no problems. I can only assume that if one performs large regular water changes then pH crashes should not be an issue. Perhaps it is the accumulated acids caused by nitrification etc. in a ?less than well-maintained? aquarium that cause the pH crashes more than the low KH alone. Just a thought.

    Another benefit of CO2 is that the reduced pH levels can often be beneficial to a lot of tropical fish. The majority of freshwater tropical fish originate from water with soft and acidic water, examples include Tetras, Rasboras, Angelfish, Discus, Barbs, Corydorus, Loaches, Killifish, Gouramis, Bettas and most species of Catfish i.e. Plecs.

    pH Swings

    During the day (when the tank is lit) the plants take up CO2 and release oxygen (photosynthesis). The take up of CO2 results in a rise in pH with it peaking at ?lights out?. After the lights are off the plants (and fish) take up oxygen and release CO2. This results in the pH dropping reaching its lowest at ?lights on?. If CO2 is continually being injected into the tank through the night then the pH levels will drop further. It is therefore important to test pH levels just before lights on and after lights off to ensure the swing is not too large. Most tanks should not experience too much swing. If the pH does swing by more than one i.e. from pH 7.5 to 6.5 then aeration through the night may be required to drive of excess CO2 or disconnection of the CO2 supply.

    Obviously a pressurized system with night shut-off or pH controller would not experience such swings.

    Diffusing CO2 into water

    CO2 is quite unstable in water and it must remain ?in contact? with the water for it to fully dissolve. Devices that perform this task are commonly known as diffusers or reactors. There are many types of diffusers available ranging from a simple bell-jar, where the CO2 bubbles simply collect and dissolve over time. A more popular method is a ladder-type device where each bubble travels up through a series of ?rungs?, the bubble remains in contact with the water for longer and thus the water absorbs the CO2. This process is visible as the bubbles get smaller as the diffuse into the water. The Nutrafin diffuser is a good example. Other types include a cylindrical type affair where the bubbles rise up a sort of inverted helter-skelter ? the principle is identical. JBL produce such a device. The above diffusers are known as ?self-driven? i.e. the CO2 gas is released into the water with no mechanical drive.

    Reactors

    In larger aquariums the common diffusers are not really efficient and another method if diffusion is required. These are commonly known as reactors. They are not self-driven and rely on a source of flow for the CO2 to dissolve effectively. Reactors are normally associated with pressurized CO2.

    Common types of reactors are fitted in-line with the external filter output. The CO2 is produced by the pressurized cylinder and flows into the reactor. The reactor is filled with some form of media that allows the CO2 bubbles to dissolve fully where the CO2 enriched water is then pumped into the aquarium.

    A really simple method of CO2 reaction is to use the external filter. Personally I run my pressurized CO2 output directly into my external filter inlet. The bubble diffuses through the filter media and the CO2 enriched water flows out into the aquarium. The only disadvantage I can find is the slight noise of the bubble when inside the filter. It is barely audible though, especially if there is any background noise (which invariably there is in my house!)

    CO2 and other Nutrient Fertilisation

    If one has over 2 WPG of good lighting with a stable CO2 level of 20-35ppm then plant growth will be fairly rapid ? especially if the plants are a fast growing species. The rapid growth results in the plants using up various nutrients (nutrient uptake). These nutrients need to be replenished (preferably BEFORE they run out) otherwise the plants stop growing leading to algae. As discussed algae loves a tank with good light and little or no plant growth.

    In Summary

    I would recommend CO2 in ANY planted aquarium, no matter the lighting level.

    It is vitally important that one injects CO2 if the lighting levels determines i.e. over 2 WPG (in a standard shape, size tank ? see my lighting article for more detail). Failure to add CO2 to a tank with over 2 WPG will result in algae.

    We all want to have a beautiful planted aquarium (I assume that if you are reading this article that you are a planted hobbyist). I believe the easiest way to help achieve this is to inject CO2. If you are starting out with a new set-up then get your CO2 running BEFORE anything else, in particular your lighting. Try to achieve a constant 30ppm

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    Liquid Substitutions for co2

    CO2 is the best carbon source for your plants, but there are liquid substitutes one can use with nearly the same results growth wise. Just like fertilizers, these substitutions are chemicals and should be handled like you would handle bleach. Here are the recommended daily dosages, and it is best to do them at the start of the photo period as you would with EI dosing. These dosages are are based on excel's directions but many do exceed them. Generally speaking doubling the dosage is still in the safe zone, but when you go above four times the dosage i've heard mixed results. I personally found 4x per day to work great for my set ups. If you like math, i've read that Tom barr doesn't recommend going beyond 3 ppm per day.


    There are certain plants that are sensative to these additives, some more than others. These plants will melt away from it.
    -Algae!!! (big plus!)
    -Anacharis (egeria densa)
    -Vallisneria
    -Subwassertang
    -pellia
    -Moss balls (they are an algae)
    -Some mosses**
    -Riccia fluitans**

    ** denotes that direct contact or above recommended dosages required. With mosses i've had java moss and flame moss fine.

    Excel (1.5% glut)
    5 mL for every 50 gallons of water, works out to 0.1mL per gallon


    Metricide (2.6% glut)
    2.9 mL for every 50 gallons of water, works out to 0.06mL per gallon
    Since the product isn't activated (you throw out the activator, NEVER USE IT), the product lasts 2 years rather than the 1 year shelf life stated on the bottle
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    Methods of Yeast Based CO2:

    The biggest drawback to diy co2 is not having an understanding of yeast. The basic mix that just do baking soda, water and sugar w/ yeast Starve the yeast to death, causing failure much sooner than it should be, so here are various mixes that you can test run and choose the best for yourself, as results vary from person to person.
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    We'll stick to the standard 2L soda bottle, as its readily available. melt a hole in the cap smaller than the airline tubing, you want it to be a pain to get the tubing through the hole, as it gives a better seal. Using sealant puts the bottle at risk of rupture. For yeast i recommend champagne/wine yeast, it will last longer as it has a higher alcohol tolerance than bakers yeast. Use check valves in the air line, it prevents back siphoning from your tank into the co2 mix. The water should be dechlorinated or from your tank.

    General rule is playing with 1/4 tsp to 1 tsp of yeast per 2L, 1/2 tsp is a good place to start. More yeast = greater output, less life from batch. More sugar = greater initial burst of output with risk of killing your yeast too early. Some people don't clean their bottles between batches, they let the previous batch yeast gunk on the bottom fortify the new yeast being added, some dont even need new yeast. if you play with the ratios, be sure to document your success failures and create a forum topic about it, or add to one related, ie jello co2 thread

    General rule is use multiple containers if you need a higher output, and offset their start dates to create a more stable flow of co2. be sure to check valve every bottle.

    Standard yeast/sugar/water: (forget timeframe)
    1 cup of sugar
    warm water half way, shake it until dissolved
    1/3 tsp yeast, let it stand for 5 min, then shake it.
    fill bottle to 3" from top
    add 1/4 tsp baking soda
    the next day it should be producing bubbles.
    *multiple bottle system with offset start dates is recommended with this batch.

    Nyberg mix: (strong output, stable, less sugar and less yeast needed overall, 3-4 weeks)
    1) 1 Cup of sugar, 2L of water, pour into bottle up to the start of the neck.
    2) 1-2 tsp of protein mix or soya powder
    3) 1 tbsp molasses
    4) 1 tsp Baking Soda
    first batch only: 5) 1/2 tsp of yeast
    batches after this one do not need yeast most of the time, simply do steps 1-4, it should refresh unless you used bread yeast. if it doesn't refresh fully, add a 1/4 tsp of yeast and see how it goes from there.

    Jello Mix: (long batch lengths, steady output, 2-4 months)
    1) 2 packs of Jello, 2 cups of boiling water, Mix well, stir DONT SHAKE!
    2) 1.5 cups of Sugar (more sugar lessons the life) mix well and dont shake it.
    3) 1/2 tsp of baking soda (leave out if using champagne yeast)
    4) 2 cups of cold water, mix well until everything is dissolved (don't shake....)
    5) Refridgerate overnight (i recommend atleast 18 hours), you want jello, not a liquid jelly

    6) once congealed, add one cup of room temperature water and 1/2 tsp yeast to the bottle. close up the cap, place on the counter and place the airline in a glass of water to confirm the yeast activated properly (bubbles come out)

    if the yeast fails, dump out the water and do step 6 again. If the batch dies early, dump out half the the liquid and add more water and yeast to kick start it again.

    Knox gelatine Mix: (higher output, less life than jello, approx 3 weeks)
    Follow the directions on the knox packets
    4 packets of knox
    1 cup of water @ room temp , disolve the gelatine in it.
    boil 2 cups of water with 2 cups of sugar
    combine in an 8x8 pan and chill overnight
    Cut into 1" cubes, place half the pan into a 2L bottle, let the cubes rise to room temp
    fill bottle to 3" from the top, add 1/2 tsp yeast, 1/2 tsp of baking soda
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    Thank you for this useful read.

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    Very good data.

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    Excel (1.5% glut)
    Hi neven,

    The label on Excel just indicate that the
    substance contain Polycycloglutaracetal.

    The term Glutaraldehyde is not mentioned.

    How one can understand that and YES
    that regarding the issue link is known.
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    someone bought me a kit from China and its all in chinese, and it uses baking soda and citrus acid in powder form.

    Any input or instructions doing it this way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by globali View Post
    Hi neven,

    The label on Excel just indicate that the
    substance contain Polycycloglutaracetal.

    The term Glutaraldehyde is not mentioned.

    How one can understand that and YES
    that regarding the issue link is known.
    if you get your hands on a much older version of their msds, it'll say an aqueous solution of glutaraldehyde. the name changed to polycycloglutaracetal a while back, unfortunately its no longer on google docs, (error last time i referenced it). Polycycloglutaracetal is a polymerized isomer of glutaraldehyde that they claim makes the carbon source only available to higher plant forms (not algae). Keep in mind that glutaraldehyde already kills algae at low concentrations 0.5ppm+, thus making the claim a moot point. I have never stumbled upon an article that explains the scientific differences and how they affect aquatic plants, but that's mostly because seachem is the only company who uses the name Polycycloglutaracetal. Contacting seachem about the differences they just ramble on about the dangers of glutaraldehyde, despite their msds showing the same risks (and metricide being a very similar concentration to excel)
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    if you get ...
    Hi neven,

    Thank U very much for your answer.

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    i'm currently dosing excel in 2.5g tank along with a sponge filter and i was wondering if the air bubbles disturbing surface agitation will result in me wasting the excel because the co2 doesnt have time to bond and be absorbed?
    ?!?!?!?!

 

 
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