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L152 always hides under that leave. Love this guy/gal =)


L152 again


L152 is a fatty =)


L240


L199 + L200a high fin


L91


L239


L90




So hard to take pics of the plecos, they're always hiding, maybe i should have less hiding places. The driftwood on the right is like a big cave. So most of them are in there.
Big props to Gary for his awesome photos.
 

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Nice Tank - gorgeous plecos!
 

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Wow...that's a really nice L90 that you scooped. ;) Your L239 looks nice and chubby too. I actually think you got some nice pics of the L152. I hardly ever see mine, as it never comes out until lights out, only at night, so I can't get pics of it. I keep stalling on getting an L240, but yours looks great.
 

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Beautiful Plecos you have there :)

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I say a blue eye... but I always say that to Gary as well :)

Too bad you don't like the panaque. Those L204 are awesome...
 
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I say a blue eye... but I always say that to Gary as well :)

Too bad you don't like the panaque. Those L204 are awesome...
Don't get me wrong Charles, but i like the L204 as well, but panaques are making a mess out of my driftwood or maybe i need a better filtration or extra one?
 
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charles, do you or Pat have anything that eats those hairy algae? I would love to add some to my tanks.
 

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I see you already have SAE's and Amano shrimp, but you have Vals, or I would normally suggest dosing some Excel or Metricide for your algae problem. The other alternative is to cut down the light a bit more. When you say hair algae, you mean the black brush algae (the black furry clumps)? How often do you change water and how much, and what's your nitrate reading before the water change? What kind of filtration do you have in there now?

I would agree with you that if you want more panaque, you're going to have to have more filtration, as I have 3 big canisters on my 125, plus an AC70 powerhead with filtration attachment which turns on when lights are out (I'm injecting CO2). The canisters I have are the FX5, Eheim 2028 and XP3. It helps greatly to gravel vac at least once a week too, if not more often. I actually like the look that the panaque give my wood. :D
 
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Gary - Do amanos eat BBA? Filtration i'm running Rena XP3 and Emperor 400 biowheel. Nitrate is around 20-40 ppm. I do 50% water change and gravel vac every 1-2 weeks.
Theres so much poop in my tank due to my plecos =)
 
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Awsome tank! love your L90, too bad i missed out on them.:(
L90 papa is an awesome pleco. I love lyre tails, but this one is really nice. I'm waiting for gold nugget and mango plecos, but i've heard they're hard to keep, any swings to the water parameters, they're goners =(
 

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Gary - Do amanos eat BBA? Filtration i'm running Rena XP3 and Emperor 400 biowheel. Nitrate is around 20-40 ppm. I do 50% water change and gravel vac every 1-2 weeks.
Theres so much poop in my tank due to my plecos =)
Amanos do eat BBA and so do SAE's, but unfortunately, only if there is nothing else to eat. And with a tank full of plecos that you are feeding, they're always going to have other food to eat. One thing you can try is localized Hydrogen peroxide with a syringe, after turning off your filters. Just spray it onto the affected areas in the water after assuring no critters are too close. Once it mixes with water, it quickly turns to water and O2 and escapes, but during the oxygen, it will kill the BBA, turning it red. After 2 or 3 minutes, turn the pumps back on.

Sounds like your parameters are good. One thing that I discussed with Charles, and that I've learned to do, is to use powerheads/filters to push the poop to one or 2 spots and vaccuum those areas. In my case, the poop gathers in the back corners, so they are not as visible, but yes, after a yam feeding, like last night, my tank is full of orange poop. You can also do just gravel vac with a small water change after one of those feedings to keep the detritus down. As long as your nitrates are not > 40 ppm, it's just ugly but not harmful for the fish.

If you like lyretails, you should really pick up some L204's. :D They look great, and mine are already eating.

I'm waiting for gold nugget and mango plecos, but i've heard they're hard to keep, any swings to the water parameters, they're goners =(
The Baryancistrus appear to be tough to keep as smaller specimens. I don't know if it's the water parameters, or the inability to feed, but that's how I've lost a few L239's also. I would also like an L47 or an L177, but still not sure it's worth the trouble with already so many plecos in the tank.
 
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Gary - Thanks for all the tips, i will try it and hopefully it will end the BBA =)
I have a powerhead 201, but missing the air tube. It's super weak when it's submerged.

When i bought the L90, i was thinking of picking up a couple L204s, but i'm trying to limit the panaques in my tank, cause i do feed bloodworms, ken's earthworm sticks and soft & moist with krills to my plecos, now i'm only using spirulina flakes and algae wafers due to the panaques.
The L239 blue panaques = i've been told these guys are scavengers and eats anything, but they're panaques?

My L239 are the most active ones, they're always out looking for food =) I love watching my plecos during feeding time =)

Yah L47 and L177 are nice plecos, but due to so many plecos in the tank, i'm scared nitrate spike might kill them >.< ahhh! but i've been waiting for them for awhile now =(
 
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