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Hi All,

I'd like to try some endlers. I've been told that they're just like guppies or that they are hardier than guppies and can live well at room temperature in Vancouver's water. But when I looked up information about them on Seriously Fish, I discovered that they like water that is quite a bit warmer than what guppies like, and also harder.

Have any of you had success with endlers? What kind of an environment did you provide them with?
 

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Hi Blackbar,

That's a very interesting site! Thanks!
I'm not sure that I'd be able to recognize a pure endler. Do you happen to have any? <grin>

Here is some good info.

http://www.viviparos.com/Fichas/Endler eng.htm

I would at least harden the water to the min. for their natural environment.

At temperatures below 76f you'll get a higher ratio of males to females. At temps higher than 79f you'll get a higher ratio of females to males.

If you find true native class endlers here let me know. They are very rare. Almost all are hybrids.
 

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Hey, Travis! That sounds like a great tank!

I'm squeamish about feeding worms to fish, never mind fish to fish, but I know that my kids will be very understanding about my having to add another tank... and another... and another... if the population grows. I wonder if that's my secret plan!

Maureen,
I had endlers for a while in a 10 gal planted. They are easy to keep and a very colorful and energetic fish to watch. I did weekly water changes using "Prime" for the chlorine and that was it. Drop a bit of food in once a day. I suggest just getting a few to start maybe 1 or 2 males with 3-4 females and they will breed like crazy. After two months I couldn't even count how many I had in there! It sounds cruel but I started to use them as food for my bigger fish, i just scooped the net in the tank and what I caught went in the big tank!

Cheers,
Travis
 

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You sound very knowledgeable about endlers! I have never ordered fish online, though perhaps I'll try that one day now that I've had such a great experience with ordering plants by mail.

How can you tell if you're getting a pure endler or a hybrid? What is an F1 hybrid? Are there other kinds of hybrids? How do you know that your endler is not actually a guppy?

Pure endlers.... the only place I have heard of that carries them is Swamp River Aquatics, a breeder in the U.S. The guy, AdrianHD has developed some pretty cool strains of pure endlers.

They are pretty frickin hardy, I have had mine for forever. They did quite fine in soft water although now I have crushed coral in their filter to simulate natural conditions. I keep mine at 74.

Cool fish... the F1 guppy hybrids look quite neat, mutts or not. I should probably start fooling around and breeding some interesting gupplers come to think of it.
 

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I have another question about endlers. My endlers are really big eaters. They love bloodworms, microworms, tubifex, and anything that I throw into the tank, including guppy food.

But, being livebearers and related to guppies, shouldn't they be preferring veggie-based food? I wasn't expecting them to be so carniverous (omniverous?). Will it harm them to eat bloodworms, etc? Some of the females are pregnant -- should I allow them to eat as much as they want, or should I just feed them a pinch a couple of times a day?
 
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