good to know April.jackson as nickelfire mentioned is worht going to see. his fish are amazing..hes at oak and 53rd. gotta call ahead or contact. some of his are as big as dogs..and quite the site. he has from tiny to huge. hes been pretty busy during pond season so hasnt gotten to posting again on here since the crash..but he will. i took some pics and movies of his fish. i got some from him..hoping to grwo em out.